Speaker 0 00:00:00 For nearly 30 years, rebel world has been protecting industrial automation in extreme manufacturing environments with our robo suit products. In 2016, we diversified into the teach pendant protection space with our pendant armor brand of bumpers, screen protectors and accessories. Think of pendant armor as OtterBox protection for robotic teach pendants. We've maintained a focus on protecting industrial and now collaborative robots and our products offer both protection and insurance for a factories, more expensive capital investments. Hello
Speaker 1 00:00:38 Everyone, and welcome to the robot industry podcast. We're glad you're here and thank you for subscribing. My name is Jim Beretta and I'm your host and I'm super excited to have Chris tour on the podcast today. Chris is president and CEO of robo world. He's a robotic protection expert. He's a patent holder, a TEDx presenter. Uh, he has worked in marketing for GE aviation, uh, in business operations for GE energy and a global product manager for GE lighting. And, uh, I'm excited to have him talk today to our audience about protecting robots, Chris, welcome to the podcast, Jim,
Speaker 0 00:01:14 It's always good to be with you. Um, I really do value the efforts you make to educate and inform those working in the industrial automation space, whether that be through your podcast, customer attraction events, uh, even the RIA. When we work together collaborating on a web webinar, I'm looking forward to a fun and relaxed conversation about some of the projects we've worked on, perhaps for some of those listeners attending your podcast today.
Speaker 1 00:01:42 Chris, thanks for that. Hey, so my first question to you is, is why would a robot need protection? Uh, well
Speaker 0 00:01:50 The easiest answers because you're trying to employ automation outside of the OEMs environmental specifications that could be temperature humidity. Uh, you may be employing automation in a food or beverage application where you're required to do wash downs using disinfectants or sanitizers, et cetera. You could be working in an explosive dust or vapor application, uh, class one, div one class, one div two, or, you know, you may, you may need to protect the product that you're actually producing. Um, think about the food industry. You don't want things coming off the robot, the end of arm tooling or gripper, and ending up in that food. Um, or in a similar application, if you're painting, you don't want robots dripping paint on a freshly painted body. Um, so we, you know, there are a lot of different reasons for protecting a robot and it's not always because you want to protect what's under the suit. It's, what's moving across that production line.
Speaker 1 00:02:50 Yeah. You know, we kind of sometimes forget that, right? It's like, it's like let's protect the robot seals in there. Uh, and, and the end of arm tool and such. So, uh, that's really, uh, interesting. What are we protecting most when we're protecting the robots from spout as themselves? Is it the motors is the cables, is the joints,
Speaker 0 00:03:10 You know, you kind of hit on an earlier, it's actually the seals for the bearings and the lubrication, the oils within the robot. Um, perhaps you're, you're protecting the overall robot itself. I E from high heat humidity, the explosive environments we just spoke about, um, reflected RF energy. You're, you're really trying to isolate the robot from this extreme manufacturing environment and not every environment is, is, is that extreme that it would require this sort of protection, but when you do identify it, or the OEM identifies the need for that protection, we're happy to step in and actually customize a solution to your needs. It's not always a full blown, full coverage, robo suit. It could simply be, um, like a torque tube cover where you're dressing or labeling molten aluminum. And you just want to protect the upper arm from splash or something along those lines or from heat. So, you know, it, it it's really application specific. Jim, I'd love to, I'd love to be able to sell, you know, full coverage suits 24 7, but oftentimes that's not the case. It's it's, we really have to look at it on a case by case basis. So
Speaker 1 00:04:24 There's a lot of customization in your life.
Speaker 0 00:04:28 Th there is. And, you know, I joke with my brother who is in this business with me, you know, we we've become material experts, not necessarily robotic specialists, but you have to be able to look at a customer's application, discern whether there are any chemicals or, uh, energy or, uh, you know, vapors that are going to destroy the robot over time. And then we turn around and we've got to go through 15 to 20 different technical fabrics to match that environment with a suit. That's going to stand the test of time, you know, and it's, and it's not just the robots, Jim, you know, think too about the teach pendants for, for nearly 50 years, these things have been taking a literal beating. They get dropped, they get pulled from their cables or their, uh, cradles, excuse me, people walking by get tripped up on the teach pendant cable itself. And it goes flying off a work surface. Um, so Penn and armor was designed to actually extend the protection beyond just the robot, because I mean, by my estimates, the teach pendant repair business globally is worth somewhere between 300 and $500 million. And that's independent repair houses. That's the OEMs doing the repairs themselves, or perhaps a, an integrator or distributor who's developed that in house and is doing it, uh, you know, at the behest of their end users who are now in a bind if they drop that teach pendant.
Speaker 1 00:06:06 Yes. And more and more people, I assume, share, teach pendants maybe in a small plant. So the teach pendant becomes very, very important.
Speaker 0 00:06:13 It does. It does. I mean, you can, you can swap teach pendants, you know, assuming that the same teach pendant model is operating, you know, similar robots in the plant, but take for example, yes. Gala motorman there's we have five different generations of teach pendant protection for just that one OEM. Um, and it's, it's an exciting time. Uh, you know, ABB is launching a new teach pendant. They have it's called the Omni Corps. Uh Kiba and Denzo have released a new, new teach pendants on their product line, as well as KUKA. They just came out with their smart pendant two or next generation. So yeah, it's, uh, you don't want to be caught in a position where you can't control and, and, you know, tend to that robot without a teach pendant.
Speaker 1 00:07:02 Yeah. And I, I always kinda think of teach pendant, uh, like a little bit like your cell phone, right. You're always dropping them. So having a case is absolutely for me, it's just something that, that was the second thing I bought when I bought my new phone. I bought my new case and screen protector as well.
Speaker 0 00:07:16 Exactly. You know, and back when we were in the early days of launching pendant armor, I went online and I tried to find some sort of entitlement, you know, w what should I expect in terms of the number of users of robots to actually protect their teach pendant and the easiest analogy or the most applicable analogy I could come across was, um, cell phone protection. Hence the, the, the moniker, you know, it's the OtterBox for robotic teach pendants. If you believe in, you see some correlation between these two devices, you know, a cell phone and a teach pendant, then we should see roughly 75 to 78% adoption for some level of teach pendant protection and think about it. I mean, phones, these days are not inexpensive. You can easily pay over a thousand dollars, but worse yet if you can't back up, or if you haven't backed up your contacts, your data, all your apps.
Speaker 0 00:08:15 I mean, think about the headache aside from just going to replace the phone, but then having to backup all that data manually. It's, that's a nightmare. And, you know, the, the same analogy holds true for your teach pendant, how much production is going to be lost in your facility. If one robot goes down because you've broken a teach pendant. So it takes somewhere between, say two to four weeks to get an expedited repair done. And that's only after one of the repair houses or independent, uh, contractors charges you a fee to determine what's wrong and come up with a quote and you with the cost to repair that pendant. So, you know that they're either going to get you coming, or they're going to get you going, but, um, Penn and is a very inexpensive insurance policy. Every bumper that we offer, whether it be for an ABB or universal and every other OEM in between their $299. I can't think of a single plant where $299 wouldn't cover one hour of lost production. It's just, it's, it's, it's a concrete way to protect your high capital investment.
Speaker 1 00:09:28 No, it's some good points there. So once switching back to their kind of robo suits, um, how do you make a robot suit?
Speaker 2 00:09:37 Uh, w we
Speaker 0 00:09:39 Have tremendous relationships with all the OEM. So it starts there. We get a CAD data. We ask for 3d PDFs so that we can zoom in and look for things that aren't always on the CAD, like hard stops, limit switches, things like that. And then in addition, we also get two dimensional DXF or DWG files. This allows us to develop, um, a digital pattern, if you will. And at that point, once we have the basis for what the suit is going to look like, conceptually, we'll go out and we'll engage a customer, the customer who has come to us and said, Hey, we're going to need protection for this particular robot. And it's, at that stage, we start asking things about the environment chemicals, are you exposing the robot to sprue, or, um, you know, any kind of sharp metal turnings swarf weld, slag, and splatter.
Speaker 0 00:10:37 We really wanted to develop a good appreciation for the environment that the robots going to be placed in so that we can then again, turn internally and determine what is the best material to use for that particular project. Oftentimes we'll develop a prototype. Um, we're, we're in the process of doing that now for FANEX new, our 2000 ID, um, arm, um, and we'll make it from an inexpensive material, but it'll feature all of the same, um, uh, design points and criteria that the production suit would. And the reason we do that is to dynamically test the suit, to make sure that we don't restrict the working envelope. Um, and in many cases, it's just to get an overall feel for how well the is going to hold up at 100% of the robots, servo speeds. And then once the, uh, the prototype validation is complete, we move into a full production, um, and validation mode where we'll introduce successive iterations of that suit in different materials, perhaps with a different configuration of rings, for example, which will allow us to flow air through the suit.
Speaker 0 00:11:51 And you may ask yourself, well, why you ever need to flow air through a suit? Um, then there's number of reasons for doing so, um, the first is perhaps you need to heat or cool, the robot, um, graters ice cream here in Cincinnati. One of the, the two stall hurt, um, ice cream producers. They have a FANUC seven 10 sitting in a minus 30 degree freezer, minus 30 F. Um, and the robot operates like it doesn't even know it's there because the jacket that we have on the robot is being flushed with warm air, from one of our heating units. So, you know, tweaking that design is kind of easy, but it's done again based on the individual customers that we end up working with. Sometimes it's the OEM, oftentimes it's an integrator. And then again, it could be the end user themselves who tried to use an unprotected robot, and they've either wiped the wrist or the tool flange. And now they're coming back to me once they've done the repairs to protect that investment,
Speaker 1 00:12:57 You certainly get the dirty, dull, dangerous jobs. And then you get the ice cream jobs, which is kind of fun. Yeah. That's
Speaker 0 00:13:04 Not without a request for samples on some occasions.
Speaker 2 00:13:08 So what materials Chris,
Speaker 1 00:13:09 Do you find that you're using most,
Speaker 0 00:13:12 You know, that's really kind of an application dependent question, Jim. I think if you were to say, Hey, what type of applications are you seeing? You would then learn that it's driven. The material use is driven by the application. And what I mean by that is, um, there's a product we use quite extensively called hype Alon. It's a chemically stabilized rubber based technical fabric. That's incredibly abrasion resistant. I mean, we use this in two different weights, either 17 ounces per square yard, or 35 ounces per square yard. Um, you can use it in blasting application, sandblasting shot blasting, cut wire media. I mean, this stuff is almost Bulletproof. Um, and that happens to be one of our more popular materials because the majority of our work is done in blasting high abrasive, um, environments where even in investment casting, where you dip apart in a slurry, and then you coat it with this sand and you repeat the process until you've built up enough of that sand and grit and slurry that you can then mold the production part.
Speaker 0 00:14:23 Well, think about how, how tough that is on an unprotected robot. You'll, you'll take the paint off right down to the, to the bare metal in a matter of months, if you don't protect it. So height blonde happens to be one of our more popular fabrics because we do a lot of work in the blasting, um, environment. And then I would have to say the next most popular is going to be a product called nor fab. And that's an aluminized Kevlar. The Kevlar is a substrate material. Um, and we routinely use that in applications up to 1,250 degrees Fahrenheit. Um, it's the same material. You will see workers on a Foundry deck or in a steel mill walking around in it's those silver suits with the big kind of golden tinted face masks. It's a, it's a very good material for tackling both high and low temperatures.
Speaker 0 00:15:17 So, um, and then probably our third, most popular is Teflon. Teflon is used in both the food and beverage, uh, vertical because it's chemically inert. It won't Harbor bacterial growth. And it stands up to every known sanitizer, disinfectant, caustic, washdown material that, that we know of Teflon can also be used where you have like industrial chemicals think about Amiens, which are corrosion inhibitors, um, in a CNC tending application. For example, the nice thing about Teflon is that it's impervious to all known chemicals. The trade-off is it has no internal fabric support or what we in the sewing industry call a scrim. So what happens here is if you're tending a machine that has sharp metal turnings, and those turnings start to accumulate on the robot, and all of a sudden one of those turnings pierces the suit, there's a good likelihood that that could propagate.
Speaker 0 00:16:27 So you have to be judicious about where you spec Teflon, and then you need to communicate with the end user, the importance of good maintenance, cleanliness, keeping the robot suit as free from, uh, debris as possible, because we want this suit to last, as long as it can, uh, for anyone that we sell it to. But, um, you know, th th those are some of the materials that we use, but like I said earlier, we've got maybe 18, 19 additional fabrics. Um, we recently started working with a company out in New Jersey called millimeter wave technologies. And this is a really cool company because what they can do is they can, so our manufacturer, a cloth, or a fabric specifically tuned to attenuate a specific radio frequency, whether that be x-ray RF, uh, infrared, I don't know if we've approached Mike yet to talk about infrared suppression, but he can tune those fabrics to meet the end-user's exact attenuation needs. And that's really cool. I wish I could show you what it looks like underneath the layers, but it's it star wars technology, Jim, it's really cool.
Speaker 1 00:17:45 No, that's very exciting. It's really, really fascinating. And I'd love to out more about, you know, why you would need this too. Maybe in a separate conversation. I wanted to ask you though. So you typically will deal in very harsh environments. What are the worst environments for you?
Speaker 0 00:18:03 The, the worst are typically the one-offs. Um, and what I mean by that is you get, you'll get a government agency that has decided to work with an integrator. And let's just say, for example, they want to put a robot in a vacuum chamber. Okay. There's hurdle number one, hurdle. Number two, the material cannot be reflective in the visible infrared and other specific frequencies. Okay. Hurdle number two, uh, hurdle number three, when you operate in a vacuum down to say minus seven, torr, your basket of available materials quickly shrinks to the size of a thimble because at neg negative seven tour materials begin what are called outgassing. So the constituents that may have gone into the production of that technical fabric start coming out of the material itself. It's no longer this homogenous sort of single piece of material as the vacuum increases, stuff starts coming out vaporizing, and it ends up in the vacuum chamber.
Speaker 0 00:19:16 Well, people don't just put robots in a vacuum chamber to put a robot in a vacuum chamber. They're running tests, they're trying to do specific things and see how things react. So there's very expensive, uh, equipment that will analyze what the robot is manipulating. And if you out gas, these products, it gets on the lenses and it starts to contaminate those very precise instruments. And you can't have that. So that's just one example, you know, and to be Frank with you, I w w we always swing for the fences and in this particular case, we swung, but we missed. And what we learned in the process is incredible because we can now leverage that to other applications. We now know what to ask. Oftentimes you go in just as blind as, you know, your integrator or the end-user, because nobody's done this before. So it becomes an iterative process.
Speaker 0 00:20:14 And in this case, we couldn't identify the material that would stand up to those environmental extremes. When you get down to minus seven tour, the temperature in that cell, just plummets. I mean, we're talking negative hundreds of degrees. And even if we could find a material that wouldn't out gas that was non specular at minus 100 or 200 degrees Fahrenheit, you encounter what is called cold crack, or embrittlement where the fabric doesn't behave like this nice supple fabric. You and I normally think of like a cotton shirt. It behaves like a two by four. So you lose the ability to, to allow the robot to do what it was originally intended to. And, uh, so yeah, that, that was one of our more difficult albeit unsuccessful. But, uh, you know, we, we, we, we run into what I call science projects at least once a month.
Speaker 0 00:21:09 I mean, this could be a company trying to employ a robot in a mining operation where it's underwater. This could be somebody who's got a 20 foot wide by a hundred foot long bill. It of rolled steel, that's 1800 degrees, and they want to move a robot arm, six inches away from the surface and pene numbers and production data onto that slab at 1800 degrees. So, you know, it never ceases to amaze me what people are trying to do with robots. I should probably start a list and you, and I could talk about it over a drink sometimes because it is, it's truly amazing.
Speaker 1 00:21:52 I look forward to that. So in, in kind of just digging a little deeper, what, what are the most popular robots? You must see some kind of trends,
Speaker 0 00:22:00 Oh my goodness. You know, the collaborative storm that universal unleashed, it shows no signs of slowing down, and those are great arms. You know, the collaborative robot has really opened automation to many small and medium-sized enterprises who would never have spent or considered spending the capital requirements to install fencing, conveyors, you know, the whole shooting match that you typically see with heavy industrial automation. Um, but our, the bulk of our sales ironically, are still, I would say, 70% skewed toward the heavier industrials. Um, and it, it follows market share largely, you know, it's the, Phanteks, it's the Modo mans ABB, KUKA, et cetera. Um, those are still the go-to, uh, OEMs for heavy industrial. But if I come back to the collaborative space for just a moment, you know, I saw it may have been on the IFR website, or maybe RIA is now a three. There was a report that had some 120 different collaborative offerings. And think about that. That's just in the space of, well, when did, when did universal come out with it? Was it 15, June, 2015 timeframe? You
Speaker 1 00:23:15 Know what I think it's, I think you're about right, but they really capitalized on it, but it's around 10 years now.
Speaker 0 00:23:23 So 120 new, new entrance in 10 years time, that's a new collaborative manufacturer coming on board every month for the past 10 years. So, you know, we've, we've sort of made our bets on a handful of collaborative, uh, manufacturers, uh, and, and because we're based in the S we, we try to follow market trends here as closely as possible. So, um, some of the more popular, um, you know, collaboratives include obviously universal, um, there's tech man robotics, Omron has come out with a couple of their arms elbow. They, they, they made a nice splash maybe two, three years ago, but, uh, the pace of that activity working with Albo has kind of tapered off a bit, but, um, of course we're working with fanic, we're working with ABB, um, with Modo man all of their collaborative products as well. And that includes the, the, the novel teach pendants that go with those collaborative applicant.
Speaker 1 00:24:27 Are there any kind of areas that you see as kind of big repeat buyers of robo suits?
Speaker 2 00:24:34 Uh,
Speaker 0 00:24:35 Yes. Yeah. I mean, if you think about, um, large jigs or seventh access, positioners doing heavy deposition, welding work, uh, whether that be a truck off-road construction, farm equipment, whatever, um, you get a tremendous amount of slag accumulation and we'll protect something. For example, similar to a FANUC F 200 positioner with a very heavy siliconized fiberglass material on this stuff stands up really well to slag temperature extremes, but because it's fiberglass based, it has somewhat of a limited life span, because if you flex think about a piece of fiberglass that you might find, um, in a commercial application, if you flex it time and time, again, those glass fibers ultimately start to wear out. So, uh, you know, many of these heavy deposition welders will come to us for those positioner covers. And it's almost like a three month replacement window because it just, it, it takes such a beating and it accumulates so much solid metal that it no longer becomes effective to try and knock it off and reuse the product.
Speaker 0 00:25:46 The same is true of, uh, Foundry deck applications. I kind of spoke to it earlier, but you know, when you've got, um, hot, uh, gritty, you got heat lube accumulation, it becomes very taxing on the robot. There's a, there's a photo. I think I've shared with you back when we were doing, uh, an RIA webinar, but it's a picture of a six axis robot. You would never know the manufacturer because it was just caked in dried on baked on graphite lube. You know, so what the robot does in this application is it reaches into a forging press, for example, holding what is called a tree. And that tree is nothing more than an arrangement of spray nozzles. It goes in it's, Brazy upper part of the forge press and sprays the lower part as it's backing out, it's creating a draft. So all of that sprayed graphite dilute is now wafting cooling and settling on the robot.
Speaker 0 00:26:47 And over time I kid you not, it can accumulate up to one to two inches on the robot. Now imagine trying to do routine maintenance on that, let alone how it's impacting the payload capabilities of that arm. When you've got, you know, an inch or two of baked on lubricant spray, lubricant, it's it's, those are big repeat buyers for the very same reason. It's just, it's very hard to maintain these robots without protection. So many of those people realize that, and they come back to us time after time, because there really isn't a good alternative,
Speaker 1 00:27:29 And it reduces the maintenance overall. But like you say, when you're chipping an inch of slight, well, an inch of boob drive, Uber can offer Ray, but robo suit. It's a pretty intense,
Speaker 0 00:27:40 Yeah. You know, you won't do that on a suit. You'll, you'll simply take it off, pull a shelf, spare, put it on the robot and under a shift. And in your, you know, basically starting with a brand new suit and you could go another six months, you could go another nine months. But, um, I imagine trying to chisel that off the robe, an unprotected robot, I mean, you've got process lines, pneumatic lines. It's just a nightmare. And oh, by the way, those jerk fittings where you intended to replace the, the lubricants or the grease, forget, it might as well go in with a Hacksaw.
Speaker 1 00:28:14 Yep. Put a new one on. So, uh, you know, kind of up, so you've been doing this for like 30 years. So what trends are you seeing overall in the, in the industry? Are you seeing like bigger robots, smaller robots, more cold, more hot environments. Yeah. You know, the March
Speaker 0 00:28:30 Of the collaborative robot is getting louder and louder and it's for all the right reasons. They're inexpensive, they're easy to program. They're redeployable, they don't come with a lot of the baggage that the larger, more capital intensive, uh, robots bring with them. So they offer a tremendous amount of flexibility and leverage for people who otherwise wouldn't, wouldn't be excited to explore, um, automation. So collaborative arms, as I said earlier, they're gaining a tremendous amount of popularity. Um, and it's a bit of a two-edged sword for us. We want to be there because we believe in that market, we believe in the future of collaborative arms, but they're typically smaller. Um, they're less expensive. So from a, you know, a selfish perspective, they're dilutive to what I would do otherwise with a larger say FANUC M 2000, right. Or a motorman GPE 800, where the cost of that suit could be four to five times as much as a U R five. So, um, you know, we're seeing a uptick in, in collaborative and it's for all the right reasons and we're here to stay. We want to be the, uh, protection or of choice. Um, what else is kind of trending nowadays? Oh, so I spoke earlier. You're about the RF, the radio frequency attenuation. We,
Speaker 2 00:30:01 Yes, we, we, we started working
Speaker 0 00:30:04 With a large OEM. They happened to be, um, a European OEM, but they're doing testing out a lot of their electrical components using robots. And when they test them, they're exposing these things to different radio frequencies. And I don't, to be honest with you, that's over my head. I don't know why or for what purpose, but they have to shield the robot from many of those emissions. So that's when I said earlier, we partnered with Mike Katz and millimeter wave technologies out of New Jersey. And he's really got some neat capabilities there. Like I said, he'll tune that fabric to whatever frequencies this OEM, the automotive OEM needed. Um, what else? Food and beverage it's, it's, you know, coming out of this pandemic, I think we saw, and, and I'm not telling you anything new, but the, the rates of transmission among food processing plants, whether that be chicken, beef, pork, or whatever the COVID transmission rate was, it just skyrocketed in those, um, facilities.
Speaker 0 00:31:07 So we're seeing a lot of interest now that we're coming out of the pandemic, um, to replace many of those workers who, you know, stood within three feet of one another on a line processing, pork, beef, chicken, whatever. Um, a lot of producers are looking to automate some of those processes and it's, it's posing some challenges, not the least of which is FDA or USDA certification. You can't just walk into a facility like that and use a product that you would normally use say in a machine tending application, it would never pass muster nor would it nor would it hold up to the sanitizers disinfectants, gamma, radiation, sterilization, um, that's unique to those food processing facilities. So that's another trend we're, we're trying to stay ahead of it. We're, we're looking at new materials, new manufacturing techniques, so that we are, again, a long-term player in the food and Bev, a vertical,
Speaker 1 00:32:08 Thank you for this, Chris. Uh, anything else new or any other innovations or products that you're working on that you'd like to chat about
Speaker 0 00:32:15 In the next, uh, two days we're going to be releasing all of those new pen and armor products that I spoke to you about earlier in the podcast, the ABB Omni Corp Denzo RC nine M Kiba key top T one-fifty and the new Cuco smart pad two, um, those will all be available on the website, hopefully July 1st, without any glitches, it's moving its way through the development server right now. And I liked the way it looks. I like the feel. So if anybody's in the market for teach pendant protection, please visit us, take a look at those new products as well. One other technology that's starting to play a more prominent role in, uh, protecting robots is actually 3d printing. Um, the way that we connect suit components to one another can either be a simple cuff, like a material overlapping cuff. It can be a bellow kind of like an accordion, which allows movement in basically two directions, the bellows compress, and then they extend. Um, but then there's a third, third form, which is called an interlocking ring. Think about how the fourth axis behaves on a robot arm, or think about how the upper arm rotates around the lower arm at J three.
Speaker 2 00:33:33 So those we
Speaker 0 00:33:36 Can sew them. And that currently is the most cost-effective proven way to accommodate rotational movement on a protective cover, but 3d printing is opening up some other opportunities. We have some, some, some hurdles to, to get over. Um, but we're probably going to see more and more 3d printing applications on the suit side. Um, yes, Scala has come to us based on our relationship. We private label in armor products for them, they're moving and looking at 3d printing technology from us that will allow them to protect their DT direct teach puck. This is a, an accessory that will bolt onto the tool flange of an HTC 10 or 80 20, and it has user-friendly interfaces or buttons on the puck itself. Um, and some of the first applications that they're looking to use this 3d printed technology is in welding applications. And if you or your listeners know the closer you get to a welding arc, you're exposing these materials to unbelievably high levels of UV radiation. So we've, we've actually found a product that stands up well to the intense UV radiation. Um, and we're in our final kind of negotiations to get that product into a yes. Gala's hands.
Speaker 1 00:35:01 Well, those are some kind neat, um, innovations. So I'm glad I asked the question, Chris. Absolutely. How can people get ahold of you if there's more questions or they'd want to find out more about what you're doing?
Speaker 0 00:35:12 Well, it's probably going to be to go to rebel world.com, contact us. You can find my direct email there, which is
[email protected]. Alternatively, um, I enjoy a tremendous network and connectivity on LinkedIn. If you look for Chris parentheses Christian tour, you'll find me there. I'd be happy to, um, otherwise, uh, you know, there's a contact form on, on the website as well.
Speaker 1 00:35:43 And robo world is R O B O world. So there's no T in robot world,
Speaker 0 00:35:48 Correct robo world
Speaker 1 00:35:51 And Chris' tour is, uh, spelled T U R last name, correct. Thanks again for joining me, Chris, I really appreciated the conversation.
Speaker 0 00:36:00 My pleasure, Jim, always great to connect with you.
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